It's true: the more technical background and pre-conceptions you have, the more more likely you run into trouble with #deltachat 😂
Don't think so much! 😉
@delta those are important users to get along though. They're the people everyone else asks for if a tool is good.
@wmd there are many computer people pretty happy with #deltachat ... who value precisely that they can use it with their families and friends easily, though.
With a lot of alternative software, the complaint is that it is only usable by specialists. We are pretty happy that in our case it is more the specialists who need to work harder and read the FAQ to understand that some lines of traditional thinking about eg email and pgp do not apply https://delta.chat/en/help
@wmd @delta I don't understand why combining delta with Thunderbird (a client mostly for cleartext mail), or importing some cryptographic key is required to value delta's architectures. Do you hack a different cryptographic key into your signal database, and otherwise don't feel confident to recommend it?
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@hpk @delta I think as mailclients go, thunderbird is one that gets combined most with pgp?
Some people value their trust chains and have very well checked keys, or they want to generate their custom key. Because you can, you get "closer to the metal". Signal doesn't offer it, so it might be a loss or just not considered. That deltachat uses pgp invites people to think im their typical pgo ways/workflows. 🤷🏼♀️
@wmd @hpk one of the biggest problems with pgp has traditionally been the high flexibility in hash algorithms, key types, key structures etc.
modern cryptographic systems like signal don't allow such flexibility, and delta also doesn't https://delta.chat/en/help#importkey
It's part of the reason why delta pretty persistently is not vulnerable against the many successful attacks against pgp implementations like gpg.